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Wouldn't this be more unquantifiable? Sure, it's monk (or lower) in most campaigns, but in one that takes place mostly in zero-gravity, you can't be nearly as effective as a fighter without it. --Ghostwheel 23:47, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Your Mage Slayer feats would be useless in a campaign without spells, but they certainly shouldn't be unquantifiable. Assuming that you only get this feat if it would be useful to you, then it would be about fighter level, right? So that's what it should be. --Foxwarrior 23:58, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Spells are part of core D&D. No-gravity campaigns aren't. Context is important ;-) That said, if you're effectively getting +4 to attack from a single feat, I'd call that feat far higher than fighter-level. But since no-gravity campaigns are so rare, this feat would be less than monk level in most campaigns--a wasted feat. Due to the big difference between the two situations, I'd call it unquantifiable. --Ghostwheel 00:08, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Core campaigns don't even have rules for 0-gravity. This feat is a Legacy of Darkness feat, which is a campaign setting that does. It should be judged solely on the basis of being used in that campaign. It's still Monk. Surgo 00:41, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Wait, what?... a feat that lets you not take a very specific set of penalties is treated as a feat that gives you a very specific set of bonuses? Ok... so we're going to treat weapon proficiency feats as "far higher than fighter-level" now too? Come on, it's not like this feat does anything that pushes you beyond your normal range of abilities, it just lets you use them. Monk is a solid placement, regardless of whether the game includes gravity alterations or not. - TarkisFlux 03:17, February 25, 2010 (UTC)