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Namespace

I think it might be better to have a namespace in front of pages such as: "3.5e:Ninjageddon (Spell)" instead of "Ninjageddon (3.5e Spell)". This is something we would probably want to start doing now. --Aarnott 15:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Possible, though there's a limit to how many namespaces I can have on a Wikia. What are the benefits of a namespace vs. what we have now, aside from searching? Surgo 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
From my understanding, that is the benefit. Is the number of namespaces allowed a low number? --Aarnott 02:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
That number is 3, though if we beg we might be able to talk it up to 4. Surgo 03:08, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Templates

Would it be appropriate to have a separate section for Templates under the 'For DM's' section? --Be well 14:51, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that will be done. Surgo 14:57, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Tinkering

Hey Gan, as long as you're tinkering can you fix the order of the items so they're less random?

For players, something more like every book ever published:

  • Races
  • Classes
  • Character Options
  • Equipment
  • Optimized Builds
  • Special Abilities (or anything less ridiculous than what it's named right now)

For DMs, something that groups similar bits together better like:

  • Campaign Settings
  • Quests
  • Maps
  • Environments
  • NPCs
  • Creatures
  • Creature Templates (per prior request)
  • Deities

And for general just drop sourcebooks and variant rules at the top of the list instead of the bottom please. At least I think that makes the pages flow better. - TarkisFlux 00:43, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, right now the order is alphabetical... not really the way it needs to be. Order of "most used" or some such is much better. That said, the "For Players, For DMs and General" listing style doesn't need to be kept at all either. It really needs to be reworked again completely and rethought over the next few days. I'll give it some more thought and get back to you later. How does "Class Abilities" sound as an option to replace "Complex Special Ability Components"? Gotta find out if 3.5e Discussions is a no-go for this wiki as well. Additionally, if you have any recommendations on the small text wording, that would be awesome. --Ganteka Future 01:16, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not really opposed to the Player / DM / Everyone split, as it helps categorize stuff and direct attention away from things you aren't going to want. It also keeps the subgroups manageable in whatever order we decide to go with because they're few in number. I don't know that I'd go with a most used order, because I can see it leading to the current setup where the order doesn't have any game flow to it. If the lists were longer (like if we get rid of the user / column split) it might be necessary or fantastic, but I don't see the point for a 6 or 7 item list like now.
Class Abilities sounds great. I like it better than the "special abilities" that I've been doing for semantic properties and category stuff, and if it gets put up here I'll go tweak the rest of the supporting structure.
I think Discussions is probably redundant with the Forum, but I don't know what purpose it served at the old wiki.
I'll get back to you on small text wording, none of it jumped out as needing to be redone but I'll kick it around for a bit. - TarkisFlux 03:08, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
On "discussions", it served as a FAQ/forum area, but was poorly done and source of many an error (they basically gave you a blank page, resulting in all sorts of formatting errors and gibberish jumble). With out chat room and how often at least one person is in there it's redundant, and probably would only cause trouble. Drop it. -- Eiji Hyrule 17:53, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Tarkis is correct -- the forum system has completely replaced Discussion. Surgo 17:55, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Traps

There is nowhere to place traps, and the IRC channel is having a brainstorm session on them. It'd be a good idea to have a section for them for DMs to look up. --Havvy 02:19, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I guess it'll go next to equipment. Let me clear up weapons first and then I'll add a section. Surgo 03:50, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if you added this to equipment or not yet, but it might work better to combine NPCs (which I know you want to pawn off, but we still have for now), Monsters, and Templates into subpages of a new page called Encounters, of which Traps would be a subpage like the rest. - TarkisFlux 22:16, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
Shall we take them out of "Equipment" where Traps currently lay? I was going to add one soon but I am debating on how I should format it, that and I am BAAAAAD at the CR/pricing/etc. Instead of following formulas I just make logical traps. "Reverse Gravity + Prismatic Wall = Fun" and stuff like that. What shall I do? -- Eiji Hyrule 02:52, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
I just wasn't sure it had been put in or not (and actually going and checking didn't occur to me cause i'm dumb today). Carry on Eiji. Worst case it gets bot moved later :-) - TarkisFlux 04:18, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Voicing support for an encounters section. Putting traps on the equipment list feels wrong, and having a section to write up premade encounters seems like a good idea. Also, it looks like there isn't a traps breadcrumb yet. --IGTN 00:46, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
If you make a preload you can feel free to steal mine. I'm going to be making tons of traps. -- Eiji Hyrule 01:25, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
They have preloads, just the breadcrumbs at the bottom don't work. I went and set up two:
{{3.5e Magical Traps Breadcrumb}} = Back to Main Page3.5e HomebrewEquipmentMagic Traps
{{3.5e Mundane Traps Breadcrumb}} = Back to Main Page3.5e HomebrewEquipmentMundane Traps
All existing traps still have {{3.5e Traps Breadcrumb}} (evaluates to Template:3.5e Traps Breadcrumb), which doesn't work since there are two possible places it can point. If we're not getting an encounters page, that needs to be fixed, either by human or bot. But dividing between magical and mundane traps doesn't make sense except that they're on the equipment page which is split up that way. An encounters page (divided, maybe, into NPCs, Traps, Prebuilt Encounters, and maybe Monsters) would solve that problem. --IGTN 01:36, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
We're trying to move "Magical" to "Magic". Bleh, I got busy before I could fix all the equipment. Surgo 01:56, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Will fix on the breadcrumbs. --IGTN 02:01, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Fixed on breadcrumb. Should I move the Magical Traps page so that the breadcrumb works? --IGTN 02:05, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Factions

Hey we need somewhere to put homebrew factions or I'm going to start pasting them on your userpages.--ThirdEmperor 22:27, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Completeness in Tables

The lists of projects (quests, campaign settings, and sourcebooks) should have a column for the completeness rating of the entry in question, so that you can see at a glance if something is complete enough to use without needing to click on the article. This would improve usability, since the complete and incomplete projects will be clearly divided from eachother. Also, people looking for a project to join would be able to quickly find projects that are just starting. --IGTN 07:58, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

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